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Beyoncé’s husband Jay-Z says that the two never planned to release back-to-back, super-personal albums about overcoming a rift in their marriage; it just happened that way. In an interview with the New York Times’ executive editor Dean Baquet, Beyoncé’s husband, who came under scrutiny in 2014 following a very public elevator fight with his sister-in-law, said he and Beyoncé didn’t really discuss the making of their two latest albums, which almost appear to be in conversation with each other, dishing dirt and expressing remorse:

Again, it didn’t — it didn’t happen in that way. It happened — we were using our art almost like a therapy session. And we started making music together.

OK. So, they were in the studio, and out of that came Beyoncé’s Lemonade, her opus on womanhood and loss, and later came Beyoncé’s husband’s 4:44, his apology for all that stuff. They didn’t talk about it. Not really:

And then the music she was making at that time was further along. So her album came out as opposed to the joint album that we were working on. Um, we still have a lot of that music. And this is what it became. There was never a point where it was like, “I’m making this album.” I was right there the entire time.

Alright! Well, in the middle of that explanation of a conversation that never happened, he slipped in a little aside: before Beyonce’s Lemonade came out, Beyoncé’s husband was working on a joint album with her. WHERE IS IT??

Rumors of this collaborative album have swirled for years, but neither party has officially announced anything. Now that they’ve really laid it all out there—but you know, organically—do you think they’ll put out the music they recorded together around the same time they were writing songs about each other? I don’t know, but if such a collection does exist, then I think they should put it out. Probably. Right? Who knows.